Pokemon of the Week DP: Salamence

Sets
SpecsMence
- Item Held
- Choice Specs
- Nature
- Timid (+Speed, -Attack) / Modest (+Sp.Attack, -Attack)
- Effort Points
- 252 Sp.Attack - 252 Speed - 6 HP
- Draco Meteor
- Flamethrower
- Hydro Pump
- Dragon Pulse
There are other Pokemon in the game with better Speed and Sp. Attack than Salamence,but SpecsMence is one of the best Choice Specs users. There are a lot of reasons that make Salamence so good at using Choice Specs. Fisrt of all there is Draco Meteor, an attack that only Steel Types can resist. Draco Meteor is so powerful that will surely hurt all other Pokemon except Steel and that's why Flamethrower exists. With this combination, almost no Pokemon has resistance to one of Salamence's attacks. Then, there is Intimidate, a GREAT Ability for a Choice item user because you will withdraw and send back Salamence a lot. Add its good typing, good defenses and HP and you have a Pokemon that can do a LOT of damage, lower your opponents' Attack and take some hits. What else do you want? Hydro Pump is the only other good Special Attack that it can learn, and it can be very useful against Pokemon like Tyranitar, Rhyperior and Heatran (which resists Dragon and Fire moves). Now, the last move, Dragon Pulse has the same type with Draco Meteor but it is there because it can be used repeatedly unlike Draco Meteor which sharply lowers your Sp.Attack. You will mainly use Draco Meteor in the early battle stages and Dragon Pulse at the end of a battle when you will need to finish some Pokemon that need two attacks to be KO'ed.
CBMence
- Item Held
- Choice Band
- Nature
- Jolly (+Speed, -Sp.Attack) / Adamant (+Attack, -Sp.Attack)
- Effort Points
- 252 Attack - 252 Speed - 6 HP
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide / Stone Edge
- Brick Break / Flamethrower / Aerial Ace
CBMence is actually a very powerful Pokemon and is as good as it was in the Advance Generation. Stone Edge is more powerful than Rock Slide, but Rock Slide is more accurate and it can flinch, so I would suggest it. Brick Break is for things like Blissey and Snorlax, but it's also a good choice against Tyranitar. Flamethrower is mainly for Skarmory and Aerial Ace for Heracross. SpecsMence is maybe more popular in this generation but CBMence is equally powerful in my opinion and is able to do a lot of damage with its terrific Attack stat.
Dragon Dance Sweeper
- Item Held
- Life Orb / Leftovers
- Nature
- Adamant (+Attack, -Sp.Attack)
- Effort Points
- 252 Attack - 136 Speed - 122 HP
- Dragon Dance
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide / Stone Edge / Flamethrower
First of all you must know this: You should keep this EVs in Speed ONLY if you have 31 IV there because Salamence MUST reach 270 Speed. This is because it has to be faster than any Choice Band Heracross and, with a Dragon Dance, faster than any Choice Scarf Heracross. Therefore, if you have less IV in Speed you should put more EVs. Rock Slide's accuracy and effect make it better for Dragon Dancing Salamence. Flamethrower is obviously for Skarmory. Life Orb makes Salamence even more powerful, but Leftovers make it more lasting. The choice here is yours.
Mixed Sweeper
- Item Held
- Life Orb
- Nature
- Mild (+Sp.Attack, -Defense) / Rash (+Sp.Attack, -Sp.Defense) / Hasty (+Speed, -Defense) /Naive (+Speed, -Sp.Defense)
- Effort Points
- 128 Attack - 128 Sp. Attack - 252 Speed
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast / Flamethrower
- Brick Break
- Dragon Claw / Crunch
The EV spread for this set is almost totally up to you. The suggested one is a typical-balanced spread for a mixed sweeper, but you may want more Attack, more Special Attack or less Speed, depending on the rest of your team. The same applies for the chosen natures. Fire Blast is more powerful than Flamethrower although for those who prefer accuracy, Flamethrower is always good. Dragon Claw is Salamence's best physical move but Crunch hurts Cresselia, Dusknoir and Slowbro a lot. Life Orb will give you a nice boost in any of your moves.
Other Possible Options
Roost is a quite good possible option especially in the Mixed Sweeper set. Salamence also learns Wish and Protect but I believe that by creating a support Salamence you waste its great sweeping capabilities. Salamence learns a few other good moves such as Fire Fang and Thunder Fang, but none of them can match the power of Draco Meteor or Dragon Claw. Hidden Powers such as Grass, Electric and Ground are good against certain Pokemon (Swampert, Gyarados, Heatran) but as always it is almost impossible to get the right move with the right stats (at least in the game). Yache Berry protects Salamence from a single Ice-type move and can be used for surprise. Choice Scarf can make him outspeed almost everything but it should be used only with a Physical Sweeper set and a +Attack Nature with 252 EVs in Attack.
Counters
Salamence is unpredictable and can surprise any of the Pokemon that can be considered its counters. Obviously, Ice-type moves are its greatest fear. Any Pokemon with reasonable offensive capabilities and a good Ice-type move can OHKO Salamence. Watch out though, because Salamence can surprise you using Yache Berry. Pokemon with Ice Shard such as Weavile are always good counters but it is difficult for most of them to switch in safely (Donphan can switch in against Physical sets). Gyarados with Ice Fang is a good option, especially against Physical sets thanks to Intimidate. Suicune and Milotic can hit him with Ice Beam but they are not able to resist two CB Dragon Claws. Milotic has a chance against SpecsMence but it takes a lot of damage from Draco Meteor. A properly trained Registeel can take easily almost any hit from Salamence (except Flamethrower from SpecsMence) and destroy it with Ice Punch.
Against SpecsMence Blissey, Calm Cresselia and Empoleon can do a good job. Against the Physical sets, you can use Gliscor, Rhyperior, Hippodown and Bronzong (Bronzong can be good against the Special set with a +Sp.Defence Nature and Heatproof for Flamethrower).
Pokemon with Will-O-Wisp can hurt physical Salamence while Heatran can hit the special one with Dragon Pulse, but it should have a lot of HP and Sp.Def.
Stealth Rock will do a lot of damage to Salamence and will surely be a problem against those who use Choice Items. Combining it with Sandstorm (or Sandstream), it will do 37,5% damage to a non-Leftovers Salamence that switches in and stays for a turn.
Opinion & Notes
Salamence is a great offensive Pokemon that can work wonderful with both physical and special sets. SpecsMence is a fearsome threat for every team and you should expect to see him a lot. This is also good for those who use physical sets because lots of people will not expect a physical hit from Salamence and they will not be prepared for it. Using a Rapid Spinner to support Salamence will help it a lot because Stealth Rock is a problem for it. Great stats, great Ability and great moves, make Salamence one of the best Pokemon in the game.
Note that Hydro Pump is an egg move.
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Blue @ 01/10/2007 at 11:06:27 am
Dragon Rush has very low accuracy so it is not good for Salamence whose main goal is to sweep.It may be more powerful than Dragon claw but Dragon Claw is far more reliable.The 20% chance of flinching is good, but you can use Rock Slide instead. (Dragon Claw has 100% accuracy, Rock Slide has 90% and Dragon rush has 75%)
Aluado @ 02/10/2007 at 06:21:50 pm
Well, 75% of accuracy is worse than 100%, but is not bad yet.:P Hum… maybe if you give Wide Lens to Salamence… who knows?
Ninjomewtwo @ 02/10/2007 at 07:58:46 pm
By giving Wide Lens to Salamence, it loses its attack powering item (Choice Specs/Band or Life Orb). That makes it far less powerful. Of course, you are not gonna use Dragon Rush in the SpecsMence set. If you are using it on the CBMence, you run the risk of being stuck to a move that failed. That means Skarmory, Bronzong, etc. can freely switch in and stop your sweep. In the DD-Mence set, there's no point in using it. After two DDs, the difference in the base power won't matter at all since Dragon Claw will KO things anyway. In the Mix-Mence set, it could be used with Wide Lens and Hydro Pump but there are still some problems. 1st, you sacrifice the boost given by Life Orb and since it is a Mixed Sweeper set, it won't have much power. 2nd, if you wanna use Hydro Pump and a Dragon-type move, why not use SpecsMence which actually can do something to Skarmory? Well, I don't know what you think but it's up to you to choose the moves your Salamence will have. Although knowing you, I don't think you are gonna raise a Salamence, are ya? :P
Fionn @ 05/10/2007 at 10:36:39 pm
A question:I'm making a Special Sweeper 'Mence,could I replace Hydro Pump with Roost?
Ninjomewtwo @ 05/10/2007 at 11:47:02 pm
Using Roost means you take out Salamence's Choice Specs because you can't use them togother. Without the Choice Specs though Salamence isn't all that great. Salamence's maximum Sp.Atk. without CS is 350 while with CS it rises to 525. The difference is really big to just let it be. Plus, without Hydro Pump, Heatran will wall you forever and will OHKO you with Dragon Pulse. But if you still wanna use Roost, I suggest you take out Dragon Pulse.
heather @ 06/10/2007 at 07:56:22 pm
I have a salamence in my team
but i prefer the focus sash on my Attack DD-Sweeping Salamence
but i have Stone edge on my moveset , is rock slide the better way too go ?
im not sure
Ninjomewtwo @ 06/10/2007 at 09:12:50 pm
Salamence will need to switch a lot so Focus Sash isn't a good choice as it gets wrecked by Stealth Rock. About Rock Slide and Stone Edge. In a CB set, their difference is quite big and I would personally go with Stone Edge even though its accuracy is lower. But after 2 or 3 DDs, their difference doesn't matter at all. Rock Slide will KO what Stone Edge is going to KO anyway so it's better to keep that accuracy. Plus, after you become faster with DD, Rock Slide's flinching effect will be handy too when facing Pokémon that you can't OHKO (like Skarmory).
Blue @ 07/10/2007 at 04:05:50 pm
Salamence can take some hits (except Ice moves) so Focus Sash is useless on him.The problem between Rock Slide and Stone Edge will always appear if you want to use a Rock Type move.Personaly I prefer accuracy, but the choice is yours.For the DDmence though Rock Slide is surely better as Ninjomewtwo said
Cyrus @ 03/11/2007 at 12:16:16 am
Hey yall.
I got a Salamence in my team with: Fly, Flamethrower, Dragon Claw, Crunch
This is like THE ultimate combi! Try this at home! x'D.
SalamenceXD @ 17/11/2007 at 04:35:37 am
Salamence is a great pokemon. Just one thing that makes it bad is its appearance. Ugh. Seriously, it looks horrible. It would have been better if he looked something like a Flygon or a true Chinese dragon. Long, whiskers, etc, while keeping its Dragon/Flying type. They should make an Ice or Fire Dragon too. It would look sooo coool.XD
Matheus @ 24/11/2007 at 07:49:49 pm
Hey, my salamence is complete diferent….=/
-Dragon Claw
-Dragon Dance
-Fire Fang [Flamethrower is a Special atack]
-Stone Edge/EarthQuake..
@ Choice Band/Life Orb
404 atack
detone anyone!
noctowl123 @ 01/12/2007 at 09:25:24 pm
cool first moveset
Draco @ 05/12/2007 at 07:45:11 am
Sala is my fave poke.
Bagons coooooooooool to.
And gyra is ur chinnes dragon (should be dragon/water, come one if u said no ur sad).
Gara doesnt learn flying moves
flameburner @ 06/12/2007 at 07:44:32 pm
I THINK IT COULD BE BETTER WITH DRAGON RUSH INSTEAND DRAGO METEOR
flameburner @ 07/12/2007 at 02:03:22 pm
MAY A SUGEST THIS MOVESET:DRAGON RUSH,DRAGON CLAW,FLAMETHROWER,ROCK SLIDE/EARTHQUAKE.ITEM HELD:LIFE ORB.
MALAKAS @ 13/12/2007 at 07:53:33 pm
MALAKIES EINAI OLA
thomas @ 20/12/2007 at 08:29:42 am
i have a level 100 salamence on my pokemon ruby. pokemon rules! bet you want to see my other 27 level 100s.
random person o_o @ 27/12/2007 at 08:21:43 am
i have a salamence with aerial ace/earthquake/dragon dance/brick break
i think i should add dragon claw somewhere but dont know what to replace
405 attack and 299 speed :)
Dill @ 10/03/2008 at 09:14:29 am
Salamence rules
Feraligatr=AWESOME @ 11/03/2008 at 12:16:34 am
Charizard would beat Salamence's behind in a fraction of a second.
Anonymous @ 09/04/2008 at 06:19:52 pm
How so? Salamence is waaay faster, and before Charizard could get a Belly Drum it would be toast, courtesy of Stone Edge or Rock Slide. This is why they have Tiers. (In looks, though, Charizard owns Salamence! :P)
Petr @ 06/05/2008 at 01:12:42 pm
I am planning to make a CBmence with flamethrower, but I am wondering what nature to use? Should I still stick with Jolly/Adamant even with flamethrower?
budgie boy @ 01/07/2008 at 03:34:19 am
salamance could own charzard any day all it would have to do is rock tomb blast or slide
or use dragon claw it is super effective and if u use a drie hit kabommmmmmmmmmm and salamance wins
budgie boy @ 01/07/2008 at 03:40:39 am
anyone agree

Aluado @ 01/10/2007 at 04:52:07 am
Hum… just a question… Don´t you think that Dragon Rush is a nice option to physical sweeper Salamences too?